Michael Brooks is the host of the Michael Brooks Show and the co-host on the Majority Report. He is also a future Zero Books author with a book in the works on the Intellectual Dark Web and a regular guest on the Zero Books podcast. This week Brooks returns to discuss the tragic, awful, conspiracy that took Alex Jones off of youporn.

We’ve started a Zero Books reading group for our patrons. It runs $15 a month on Patreon and the first book on our list is Anselm Jappe’s The Writing on the Wall. Support us on Patreon and join in reading Jappe’s book and participate in an online discussion. All of our supporters get access to the Symptomatic Redness and Alternatives podcasts, and patrons who donate five dollars a month or higher get access to Inside Zero Books podcast as well, which means they get access to a second podcast every week. Patreon supporters are helping us continue to produce our youtube channel and other online projects like our online Capital reading group.

KMO is the host of the C-Realm podcast, a show that has been appearing weekly online for over a decade, an actor, an author and has recently returned to cartooning. His comic strip GEBB is online at GEBB.io. GEBB is the story of a group of aliens, in spite of themselves, working to save Earth from human destruction and KMO and I discuss the strip, his creative process, and the broader UFO/Abductee phenomenon in this podcast.

It’s Thursday, August 9th, 2018 and I’m Douglas Lain the publisher of Zero Books and the host of this podcast.

Last week I announced that we’re starting a Zero Books club for patrons who contribute $30 a month through Patreon, but we’ve decided that was too expensive. So now people who donate $15 a month to the podcast will receive a selected Zero Books title every month along with an invitation to join an online Zero Books reading group. It’s a way to not only read our newest titles, but also a way to virtually meet Zero Books authors as they’ll be participating in these online discussions whenever possible. All of our supporters get access to the Symptomatic Redness and Alternatives podcasts, and patrons who donate five dollars a month or higher get access to Inside Zero Books podcast as well, which means they get access to a second podcast every week. Patreon supporters are helping us continue to produce our youtube channel and other online projects like our online Capital reading group.

Chris Cutrone is a member of the Platypus Affiliated Society, a professor at The School of Art Institute of Chicago, and a returning guest to the Zero Books podcast. He is the author of a controversial essay entitled “Why Not Trump.” The piece was a half-hearted endorsement of Trump as the better adversary for the left, an opinion that is not at all self-evident today under Trump. However, this week we discuss the late Moishe Postone as well as Adolph Reed in the context of the death of politics.

I want to thank everyone for supporting the Zero Books podcast on Patreon. We have passed our goal of reaching 400 patrons and this month we are announcing a new reward tier. Listeners who contribute $30 a month through Patreon will receive a select Zero Books title every month along with an invitation to join an online Zero Books reading group. Often enough Zero Books author will participate in these online discussions of their work with our patrons. All of our supporters get access to the Symptomatic Redness, and Alternatives podcasts, and for five dollars a month or higher supporters get access to Inside Zero Books podcast, which means that supporters get access to a second podcast every week. Patreon supporters are helping us continue to produce our youtube channel and other online projects like our online Capital reading group.

In part one of a two part conservation, J. M. Colon returns to discuss civility norms in the DSA. In this discussion, the history of the NSDS and “calling in” are discussed as well as problems and possibilities around the use and abuse of such norms. We also discuss the history of DSA expansion, the structure of local bodies, the use of civility norms and the implications for the broader left. Tangential topics that emerge include “victimization as a means of empowerment," the baggage that each person brings to a socialist group and the dangers of therapy and therapeutic conceptions in a political context. We also touch on the history of the SDS and First International as historical models are problematized by their dissolution"

Michael Brooks is the host of the Michael Brooks Show, the co-host of the Majority Report, and a future author for Zero Books. This week he returns to the Zero Books podcast to discuss Jordan Peterson and the left-wing Jungian James Hillman.

I want to thank everyone for supporting the Zero Books podcast on Patreon. We just passed our goal of reaching 400 patrons. Patreon supporters get access to the the Inside Zero Books, Symptomatic Redness, and the Alternatives podcasts. Counting Zero Squared, Patreon supporters get access to two podcasts every week and are helping us continue to produce our youtube channel and other online projects like our Capital reading group.

Brian Culkin is the guest this week. Culkin is a writer, theorist, and film director. His films include the feature length documentary 'The Mission' and the short film ‘Voices.' His books include Postscript on Boxing and,  the Meaning of Trump which is out now from Zero Books.

I want to thank Nathaniel L, Jeff B, Allan C, Jon, and Daniel R as well as the 382 other people who are currently supporting the Zero Books podcast on Patreon. Patreon supporters get access to the the Inside Zero Books, Symptomatic Redness, and the Alternatives podcasts. Counting Zero Squared, Patreon supporters get access to two podcasts every week and are helping us continue to produce our youtube channel and other online projects like our Capital reading group. With 387 patrons we’re just 13 people away from reaching our first target of 400. When we pass 400 patrons (and hold onto them for a month) we’ll hire a second podcast editor and either introduce a third podcast or a second video series.

Derick Varn is back this week to discuss a historic debate between James Baldwin and William F. Buckley that took place at Cambridge University in 1965. For those of you who don’t know, James Baldwin was a literary giant who wrote works such as Notes of a Native Son and No Name in the Street and William F. Buckley was the renowned founder and editor of the National Review along with being a columnist and television interviewer on his program Firing Line. The topic Baldwin and Buckley debated in 1965 was Is the American Dream at the Expense of the American Negro. You’ll find a link to a video of the debate in this week’s show notes.

I should also point out that, at the end of this episode, Derick Varn and I agree to have our own debate sometime in the future. Given how old this recording is, that debate should be coming up soon.

Thanks go out to Alexander W, Tayler F, Francesco A, Zac C, and Haas D for supporting this podcast through Patreon. When you support Zero Books on Patreon you get access to a second podcast, the Inside Zero Books podcast, every week. Inside Zero Books features conversations that you won’t hear on the main feed. This last weekend, for instance, Ankur Dnyanmote was the guest and we discussed the music of Pink Floyd. The week before that Derick Varn was the guest and we discussed an essay by the socialist intellectual Hal Draper entitled “The Anatomy of a MicroSect.”

Rob Larson is a professor of economics at Tacoma Community College in Washington State and the author of Bleakonomics. He's written broadly, including for In These Times, Dollars & Sense and Jacobin, and appeared on Alternative Radio and other programs and he’s the author of the book Capitalism Vs. Freedom which is out now from Zero Books. 

I want to thank Ben W, Neil, Luke O, and horacio along with 360 others for supporting the Zero Books podcast on Patreon. Patreon supporters get access to the the Inside Zero Books, Symptomatic Redness, and the Alternatives podcasts. Counting Zero Squared, Patreon supporters get access to two podcasts every week and are helping us continue to produce our youtube channel and other online projects like our Capital reading group.

Luke Turner is the guest on this week's podcast. An artist based in London, Turner is one-third of the artist trio LaBeouf, Rönkkö & Turner, alongside Shia LaBeouf and Nastja Säde Rönkkö. The co-editor of the aesthetics and culture website Notes on Metamodernism, he penned The Metamodernist Manifesto in 2011.

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