The guest this week is C Derick Varn who returns to discuss his outsider's interest in the occult and the Platypus Affiliated Society. Varn is returning for the second half of what started out as a conversation about the difference between ontology and epistemology, and if you haven't heard that first half yet I do recommend checking it out. That was in episode 131. I want to thank Andrew M for signing up to be a regular donor to the podcast. I've finally started the Philosophy Workshop and the first 20 people who subscribe by signing up to donate $10 or more on a monthly basis will be signed up for this combination between a philosophy lecture series and a writer's workshop. Using Talkshoe to host a monthly international conversation, the Diet Soap Philosophy workshop will include one 45 minute presentation/lecture monthly as well as a discussion wherein the lecture and monthly writings will be discussed. Subscribers who contribute writing will receive criticism and suggestions toward publication as well as a monthly one on one meeting with me so that we can discuss the submitted work. For the moment I'm limiting the workshop to 25 people. That is, there will be 20 spots for paid subscribers and 5 spots left open for those who want to participate but can't afford to donate regularly. The music in this episode includes Bird Girl as performed by the band Circus Contraption, Etta James signature tune At Last and Elvis Costello's Stalin Malone. The voices you heard belonged to the postmodern Christian Peter Rollins, the synchromystic Jake Kotze, and Chris Mansour of the Platypus Society.