Frank Rotering is the guest this week and we discuss his Economics of Needs and Limits, the limits of Marxism, and the timidity of the intellectual class especially in regards to the official story of 911. Along with a Zulu, Tuvan, and Utah Phillips/Ani DiFranco version of the Internationale, the music this week includes a collaged up version of Xanadu, Chris "Isto" White's "Hitler Masturbating in a Tub," and Hussalonia's "Song of Interactive Voice Response Answering Service." I also mention my appearance on Jon Armstrong's If You're Just Joining Us Podcast, the De-Growth conference in Vancouver, BC, my story Noam Chomsky and the Time Box, and my Pick Your Battle Kickstarter project. If you'd like a copy of the Chomsky short story you can pledge a dollar or more to the Pick Your Battle Project. And Miriam is on hand to tell us the story of Titanicat.