This is a conversation with the mystic, film critic, and existential detective Jason Horsley on the subject of UFOs. Horsley and I had been unfruitfully arguing on an abstract level for about twenty minutes when I decided to shift ground and talk in concrete terms about the phenomena. So the conversation you'll hear in this episode starts with this shift to the concrete or mundane, and I want to point out that I am a skeptic of the UFO phenomena. That is, I don't believe any of the literature or explanations for the phenomena. That said I find the subject endlessly fascinating. As a science fiction nerd, a surrealist wannabe, and a the kind of oddball who likes to puzzle over the metaphysical and ontological riddles that seem so prominent in this Late Capitalist age, the UFO subject is pleasing to me.

By the way, it's Friday, December 9th, 2011, and I'm Douglas Lain the host of this podcast. You might have noticed that podcast has slipped into an irregular schedule. I've been working two jobs for the past two months and have found keeping up with interviews and editing to be pretty much impossible. However, starting next week I'll only be working one job (as the seasonal job ends) and I should be able to get back on schedule. I have some big plans for 2012, which as you all know will be the last year of history, and the podcast is a big part of those plans.

I also want to point out that my latest short story "Erasing the Concept of Sex from the Photobooth" is available in this month's Interzone magazine. Interzone is England's leading science fiction magazine and I'm glad to have my work appear there again. So if you're in the UK you might look for the current issue at your local Newsstand, and I'll provide an online link in the show notes for this episode. Also, everyone should consider purchasing my novella Wave of Mutilation. I'll pick up providing audio excerpts to that in the next week probably, and I hope to start making the rounds on various podcasts and maybe even radio to promote the book. I'm proud of it and I want a lot of people to read it.